Trying to track the ISS

klasse35 – February 2, 2008 – 07:54

Hallo into the Round,
I'm trying to track ISS, put in all data, and after all has been sorted out appropriately,
after 5-10 min no data are given for the next 10 days as requested.
Will ISS be invisible for the next 10 days for the Bali-Indonesia-Area ?
Is the mesospheric albedo already so far spread out,
that you can say in advance, where it will be visible and
where the accumulated water in the mesosphere will be obscuring ISS?
The only data given is next pass in 18 mins and 2 sec.,
but on your map the ISS is SES of us near Perth now and the local sky has since the
last Re-Orbiting Manoeuvre (11.01.2008) a very high hazy cloud-layer which lets
the blue sky appear only very lightblue (aquamarine) and a week ago we had a circular
halo around the Sun with central brownish delightening and strong spreading of
LASER-like light-amplification which in other places has been discussed as indicator for
Water in the Mesosphere.
Thankful for reply. (Now in 7 min 42 sec.)
klasse35

Re: Trying to track chemicals by their light-scattering Filters

klasse35 – February 20, 2008 – 14:59
klasse35 wrote:

Hallo into the Round,, esp. Hallo, Alain,

Taking up the thread about 'seeing the sun brownish "delightened" with halo' :
['a circular halo around the Sun with central brownish delightening and strong spreading of
LASER-like light-amplification which in other places has been discussed as indicator for
Water in the Mesosphere'],
I would like Alain to be helpful
contacting the ISS-Staff as soon as possible:
I see a New Scientific Possibility, which I could not trace as yet to have been used by NASA:
there will be an excellent opportunity
for the staff active on ISS,
to take comparative Fotos of the rising Moon
even using the occasion of the Eclipse of the Moon
with the same cameras in repetitiv identical Situations as additional Controls
while rising over the horizon at different levels
The Albedo of the white light of the Sun is always reflected by the Moon
without any significant atmospheric filter towards the observer.
So only here the Moon is possibly partly obscured by the dust in the atmosphere
then in the Stratosphere including the Ozonlayers with the different light-scattering gases
and then the different heights of Mesosphere with the different stratified layers
35-50 km (cold- 50° - +3°C with rel.warm narrow peak)
60-80 km (deep-freeze -80° -100°C )
80-100 km Mesopause (-80-+80°C the data are in various publications at slight variance)
and finally free in the surrounding at the normal ISS-Level (300 km at +80° --> +150° ???).
And especially the short-term of the Eclipse will give the opportunity
to compare the Filter-Effect of the Earth' Plasma-Tail with Core-Shadow without reflexion
and the Semi-Shade which is dominated by the athmospheric layers Scattering of the white light.
When later comparing the fotos
with the identical Full-Moon-Pix without the Earth's Umbra (=Shade)
it will be interesting to see, that there are rather brownish Filters in the Mesosphere now.
From the various Pictures which NASA lets us download,
it would be great to compare more than the three Full-Moon-Pix which I have gathered until now:
one undated of 1973 from Skylab,
another of the Full-Moon on the pix of Hurricane Emily 17.7.2005
and another one undated of 2007, which was cut with a triangular edge only of the
white basal layer of Stratospheric Clouds or whatever was next underneath the ISS and Shuttle.
And here one can say(if it could be noted) Moon rising over Europe or Atlantic or USA,
and finally f.i. through the Ionosphere or (almost overhead) through Exosphere,
(here even may have to be noted the possibility of taking the overhead-pix through the Earth'
Magneto-plasma-Tail on the night-side)
It would give scientifically provable evidence
of the Substances causing the Filtering Effect.
And NASA certainly has the possibilities to analyze the filter's nm wavelengths tracing the gases.
And the Total Lunar Eclipse coming up tonight will be an excellent possibility
to put up such scientifically certainly important pictures.

So Please, Alain, could you be helpful,
to send this as a scientific hint to the ISS directly ?
Hope it is not too late and they are not too busy otherwise.
But probably the clever Nasa-Staff has already thought of this possibility anyway and given orders.
Still- then it was an interesting situation to come to think of these possibilities.
Let me know, what came out, please.
If it be too late now, there are normally 2-3 Total Eclipses per year, ...

Tracking ISS in cloud free sky and about cloud-levels.

klasse35 – February 2, 2008 – 10:06

klasse35: further to my attempts to track ISS through blue-hazy sky with very high-altitude
fog and high-rising Cumulo-Nimbus Clouds over Bali (northward over the Jimbaran-Bay)
spreading out high above the normal level of Cumulo-Clouds like the Ambos-Shape of
Thunder-storms building up.
Neither in the hazy-blue sky above us nor near the strongly glaring Sun nor through the
hazy fog towards East nor West any shiny-white Flying Object like ISS could be seen with
my eyes.
But under these high altitude fogs or hazes the clouds are rapidly filling with water,
more over the Bali-Island than over the sea.
The High-Atmospheric-Electricity appears to be increased,
so that clouds filled with water (amounting to 50 000 m³ over a square mile)
can be carried long ways before they let the rain fall.
Some years ago I made some tribo-electro-static experiments
with suspended H2O-drops, which gave us the hints:
that there must be a very strong spheric Charge-Generator installed
way up beyond the clouds,
which can attract water into the icy-cold regions
where optimal surface/weight proportion for congealed water is reached,
in the regions of Cirrhus-clouds.
Here the water may be moved by large field-electric turbulences
(above the level of the Stratospheric aeroplane-routes).
From aeroplanes you can see the effect
of electrostatic and UV-Light induced Photo-Hydrolysis:
The Clouds end at a certain level as the Water is split into H and O
and only strong and hot upward drifts over some warm waters,
and above Nuclear Power-Plumes (some enhanced with strong Ventilators)
the Plumes reach through the clouds and settle again from above.
Adding Water and a part of the aireated discharges into clouds for further distribution...
And as this does not stay in the region, after some years it spreads
even to the Southern Hemisphere.
So when I look for ISS as a European now on the Southern Hemisphere
I fancy, that our River-Waters power-steamed into the global air-streames
finally increase the Monsoon-rainwaters and help drying up the beds of our rivers,
allowing drinkingwater-diffulties to arise back home.
Let's further observe the ISS. It is interesting.